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Wednesday, September 7, 2011

It's PVCu, But Not As We Know It!

PVCu recycling has been around in the industry for a few years now. Some post consumer waste goes towards being made into things such as insulation and other similar things. Some post consumer waste goes back into making new PVCu frames. 


So what direction does the industry need to take when it becomes too expensive and over-resourceful to make PVCu from oil?


This is a question that may need to be answered quite soon. The price of oil over the next 5 years is only going to go up, which will obviously have an impact on the cost of the polymers and in turn the PVCu raw material. I don't think our industry could cope with many more increases right now. The way I see it there are two roads to go down.


The first would be produce the polymers we need from sustainable crops used for oil (more like the cooking kind). This would have a manufacturing advantage as we would be able to produce what we needed here, rather than import a lot of it from the Far East. Jobs will would be created and local economies would be boosted. The downside to this however is that there isn't enough of the crops for this to fully sustain our £4 billion industry. And remember, PVC is used in a plethora of other industries, not just ours. The crops we have at the moment just won't be able to meet the demand. Planting numerous amounts of new fields of the stuff isn't a viable option either.


The second option then is to focus more on recycling the old PVC windows and doors we take out. More and more installations over the last few years have involved taking out old, tired PVC windows and doors. Rather than these going to landfill via our skip companies, these need to be taken to specialist recycling plants, preferably run and owned by the systems companies so that the right people with the right expertise can do this properly and as efficiently as possible. Installers then save lots on the cost of skips, landfill isn't used as much and so the environment benefits. But what need to consider is the public's appetite for 're-used' windows. Some people don't like the idea of used cars, so they buy new ones because they know there is far less a likelihood for things to go wrong. I know recycled windows go through a complete meltdown and are reproduced, but we would need to make sure that the public doesn't get stuck with that 'used' and 'cheap' image. But then there is the problem of meeting the demand for the whole industry. We simply don't recycle enough, or will probably never do so in the future, windows and doors to cope with the whole replacement and new build markets. And if our industry is to continue to grow, meeting that demand is going to become even harder. 


Therefore, we arrive at a problem. We have to position the industry ready for a time without oil. With these being probably the two most viable options right now to replace the need for oil, we have to come up with a way of effectively incorporating the two techniques to make that transition. If we can, then our manufacturing industry in this country could stand to benefit from billions of extra investment and massive job creation. If we could make sure that all this happens in this country, then we could also wean ourselves off the need for foreign imports. 

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1 Comments:

Blogger Unknown said...

People will always need windows. Timber and Aluminium are already much more expensive than PVCu... but people buy them.

When fuel prices go up people don’t stop buying it... they are just more careful about not wasting their money carelessly.

So if PVCu Windows rise in cost people will still buy them. But there is the usual problem in our industry.... selling at a loss, price slashing etc... and that is a whole other topic. But if there was a general universal rise across the industry PVCu would still remain cheaper than other materials and would still retain many of its Unique Selling Points which 80% of purchasers seem to like.

As for recycling... I am very much in favour of enabling customers to return their Post Consumer waste to their supplier who in turn should ensure that it is sent for recycling ... not landfill... and where possible is reincorporated into other useful industry products such as windows and doors.

I believe that there is now a demand from consumers for recycled (not second hand) products including windows. They are also keen to know that their old windows etc are being returned to be a part of the recycling process.

Salesmen some years ago used to brag about their windows being 100% virgin material! Now they are more likely to be boasting about how much recycled materials their frames contain or to what extent their company is involved with recycling.

At Listers we collect, sort and recycle all of our Trade Customers Post Consumer waste. The service is free of charge and saves our customers thousands of pounds each year in waste disposal charges. It also saves our local environment from suffering 100s of tons of plastics being deposited in landfill. Last year we collected and recycled 43 tons of post consumer windows alone. The first 6 months of this year has seen us send over 31 tons for recycling.

So, prices may rise for whatever reasons there may be. But PVCu windows are here to stay and are still most likely to maintain their prominent position in the market well ahead of Timber and Aluminium who have their own price and environmental pressures. The real challenge still remains for us, as an industry, to promote the real value of PVCu to customers and not keep selling on price!

Mark Warren. Lister Trade Frames Ltd

September 8, 2011 at 11:16 AM  

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